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#1197 - 11/15/2005 07:05 AM Re: 30 yr old Pharmacy student????
billydet Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 11/15/2005
Loc: MI
Hi Im 23 and in the IT Field, I have a degree in Computer Science. I checked and I just need to take 6 science classes to be considered for Pharm School. I am working fulltime right now. I just hope to get into school and am a bit discouraged since it is competitive acceptance. My GPA for my computer wasn't great, but for the non science and math requirements I have done better. Does anyone have any advise for me? Any would be great.

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#1198 - 11/30/2005 07:34 AM Re: 30 yr old Pharmacy student????
2sachse Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 11/30/2005
Loc: DFW Texas
I'm a 34 year old pharmacy student and mother of 4 children under 12. I'm enrolled in Creighton University's PharmD web track. I take all my classes online (recordings of the campus lectures audio or video with power point, discussion board and interactive chat) and take tests at a local certified testing center. I go to Creighton for a few weeks in the summer to the campus in Omaha to do labs.

There are three attorneys, a veternarian, tons of pharmacy techs, chemical engineers, programmers, biochemists and all else in my class. Average age this year is 29, a huge % have degrees already, average PCAT score for the web track was 88.

Entry to the webtrack is very competitive (as it's the only one in the country). So you need good grades in all the prerequisites. I'd been away from school for 13+ years so I retook Organic Chem 1 & 2 plus the other things I was missing in the year before I applied.

You can not work full time and be sucessful in this program. People try but I can't see how you could do it and stay sane. It's too much work, but it is much more flexible than any traditional PharmD program so it's an excellent fit for someone like me with a lot of family committments. I also didn't have to move our family (DFW doesn't have a pharm program) so I could go to school.

I wasn't even aware of Creighton's program until just before I applied. So I wanted to put that out there for anyone considering pharmacy school.

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#1199 - 11/30/2005 07:59 AM Re: 30 yr old Pharmacy student????
2sachse Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 11/30/2005
Loc: DFW Texas
Just as background... I had so-so chemical engineering grades from the early 90's. I took biology 1&2, organic 1&2, psychology, statistics, and speech in the 12 months before applying to pharmacy school with excellent grades in the 'new' classes. I also did very well on the PCAT. All while taking care of my family and four children.

I think the PCAT score and the excellent recent grades and admission interview outweighed my so-so grades on prerequisites that I took 14 years ago and my less than stellar overall GPA. I proved I was a good student now (even with my addtional responsibilities) even though I wasn't a stellar student the first time around.

Some pharmacy schools require all prerequisites to be taken in the last five years, others are more lenient depending on the class and the grade. Creighton 'preferred' prerequisites taken in the last 5 years and 'preferred' them to be taken full-time and said the 'academic rigor of the institution' would be considered.

Creighton also did one-on-one admission interviews. Basically they were assessing critical thinking skills and communication (ie. how would handle an irate patient/customer? what if you made a mistake, would you report it to your supervisor? Tell an experience where you thought you were judged unfairly and what you did to rectify the situation.)

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#1200 - 12/30/2005 14:36 PM Re: 30 yr old Pharmacy student????
MidlifePhDStudent Offline
Member

Registered: 12/27/2005
Loc: Southern California
Ah, money, the tie that binds.


Everybody in this thread seems to have a clear understanding of the challenges ahead, and STILL be welcoming the opportunity to meet them.

I just stumbled upon this board yesterday and am surprised to see that this thread looks like it has already created a Pharmacy student-support group. Although pharmacy is not my field, I hope that you will continue to share the experiences from your journey in this forum.

About getting Merit Aid: find out what the merit award level cutoff score is at your Univerity for a "full boat" merit scholarship. There will also be at least one merit scholarship awarded at your school level. 98 and 99th percentile scores should automatically get you consideration.
When I studied for the GRE, I just focused on being assured I could pass it, and was happy that I did. Later I realized I should have set the bar at the Merit Scholarship level, and tried harder. Just a few more points and I would have been in.

If you have taken the PCAT and think you could do better with more study, it might be financially worth it to take it over.
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#1201 - 01/25/2006 21:33 PM Re: 30 yr old Pharmacy student????
newyorkcitynyc Offline
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Registered: 01/25/2006
Loc: Manhattan, New york
Hello im 23 and want to start a career in pharmacy but i am not sure yet. so far im going to go to a cuny school in new york to get a bachelors in either biology or something related im that.
i was just wondering if i should hold off applying until i got my bachelors or if i should apply after i finish my prepharm coursework.
i feel a little weird going back to college wheneveryone else is 17.
when i was 17 i didnthink about college. i regret not going because by the time i get out of school ill be over 30 yike.

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#1202 - 01/28/2006 08:46 AM Re: 30 yr old Pharmacy student????
MidlifePhDStudent Offline
Member

Registered: 12/27/2005
Loc: Southern California
Apple, I don't know much about Pharmacy schools, so I can't answer your question. Have you looked at the catalogs from the schools in your state, to see if they require a bachelor's degree for acceptance?

If you can enter directly with two years of coursework under your belt, that would certainly enable you to get your degree sooner.

As for your age, teachers love having older students in their classes. They are such good students. Many of those 17 year olds around you are going to drop out along the way, because unlike you, they don't yet know what they want to do with their lives. So don't feel wierd about your age, feel proud that you have all that adolescent turmoil behind you.

As you will see from reading this thread, there are lots of "old" pharmacy students going back for the same degree you are. Once you are actually in Pharmacy school, you will probably find that you are younger than many of your fellow students.
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#1203 - 03/18/2006 19:43 PM Re: 30 yr old Pharmacy student????
mikeydee4 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 03/18/2006
Loc: new york
Reply to Apple/JD wanting to become a pharmacist:

I am 28 years old and graduated with my Pharm D back in 2002. Your post caught my attention, b/c I'm actually thinking about going law school (to pursue biotech/pharma patent law)!

Here's my advice. You can defintely do it. If you had the brains/persistance/wherewithall to get through law school, you can definitely get through pharmacy school. I recommend doing it full time, as it requires intense science courses and study. The main difference is that I assume you'd be using an entirely different part of your brain compared to law school.... i.e. in pharmacy, either the answer is "A" or "B" on your exams - in law school, its much more subjective... you're graded on your ability to explain why "A" is/could be/possibly be "B".

Based on whatever "core" undergrad courses you've taken, you might be able to transfer credit, and thus shorten the time. Part-time is also an option.

It's definitely a secure degree to have, and extremely versatile at the same time. You could simply count pills at Walgreens, or consult, work in industry, hospital, teach etc. One thing to note is that you'll never make a killing of a salary - you'll definitely be very comfortable, but I find that many of my friends who didn't do half of the studying that I did in college ARE making a killing in sales, on wall street, or as attorneys.

So what do you hate about being a lawyer? Please feel free to email me with any other questions about pharmacy. Like you, I'd like to talk to as many people as possible about patent law before committing $100K/3 years of my life to law school.

Regards

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#1204 - 05/18/2006 05:21 AM Re: 30 yr old Pharmacy student????
want2be Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 05/17/2006
Loc: NC
Hi:

Okay I am thinking about pursuing this degree. I am an older returning student at 41 yrs and I probably would not be able to start until 2007. So I would be about 46 yrs old graduating from pharmacy. I was in the pharmaceutical industry for 8 yrs than stayed home with kids for 5 yrs.

Would this be worth it at my age? I am looking for more flexible work schedule with good pay.
My concerns are the PCATs and do pharmacy schools want older students like me?

2sachse - if you are out there, can you please contact me? I am interested in your experiences with school and mom life.

Thanks everyone!

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#1205 - 06/05/2006 15:11 PM Re: 30 yr old Pharmacy student????
PharmDstudent Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 06/05/2006
Loc: West Palm Beach
hey billydet

I am 23 years old and I will begin the first year of PharmD program starting this August at NOVA University(Florida). I was in a similar situation as you with so so grades, but I was able to ace my latest prereq courses (5 to be exact) so that some schools saw that as an indication that I am not that stupid, and luckily I was interviewed by NOVA and got accepted recently. When you're applying to Pharmcy schools, use PharmCas and they will list tons of information about all the participating schools with their previous yrs acceptance rate and avg GPA etc., so for me or you, I picked the schools with lower requirements which meant less competition. However, those schools are often private and have a higher tuition. Nonetheless, if you graduate and start working as a pharmacist, I am sure that the extra money won't hurt as much.


Now I have a question for you nice people out there...After I finish 4 years of PharmD, I want/plan to go to PharmLaw school, does anyone know the avg annual salary for that? or any good schools? thanks

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#1206 - 06/06/2006 20:25 PM Re: 30 yr old Pharmacy student????
tk Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 06/06/2006
I was glad to learn of other people who are starting or considering starting a pharmacy career later in life. I am 40. I have a B.S. in Communications and worked as a paralegal for 6 years. I had kids, stayed at home for a little while and have been working part time as a certified pharmacy tech (retail) for the past 5 years. I stand beside these pharmacists all day and I know exactly how to do the job. So, I am seriously considering beginning pre pharmacy classes this fall. I have about 8 classes to take BEFORE pharmacy school. I hope my tech experience will be viewed in a favorable light. On a lighter note, I'll actually be able to help my kids with their math homework! Thanks for listening.

tk

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#1207 - 10/23/2006 12:23 PM Re: 30 yr old Pharmacy student????
PharmD USN Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 10/23/2006
Loc: ny
Hi I am also a medical technologist looking to go into pharmacy school with 2 kids. I have been a med tech for over 7yrs. Can you all Med techs in this forum give me some heads up on what to do to increase my chances? I am presently retaking som pre-reqs since my science courses are over 10yrs old and I work for a drug development research institute fulltime. Any advice will be appreciated.
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#1437 - 01/05/2009 20:59 PM Re: 30 yr old Pharmacy student???? [Re: 2sachse]
pharmfox Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/05/2009
Hi,
Happy Holidays! Thanks


Edited by pharmfox (01/05/2009 22:27 PM)

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#2151 - 07/14/2011 03:45 AM Re: 30 yr old Pharmacy student???? [Re: apple]
Bessie Garrett Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 07/12/2011
Age may not be the main factor when there is wish to learn and educate more

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